Good day, I am RonaId Morris, I saw your profile and I decided to contact you immediately. Can you get back to me on my email (ronmorri01@gmail.com) for full details. Regards.
Thanks Michel for your friendly proposal. I like your activity within P2P community and I'd like it to support i any way. Especially ou notres contacts (courtes) seront en francais. J'aime beaucoup ce language mais alas sans grande mutualite ;-)
A propos de ma question: comment je peut etre enregistre?
Thanks Michel. I haven't written anything up yet but I will soon. I find a lot of truth in your thesis on p2p production, and p2p agriculture is my passion. To build a true commons we must build the soil.
Thanks for your reply. I was hoping for a response, if you have time, to my comment on the Marxism debate, reproduced below.
Quote – ‘The key is that generalized non-reciprocity cannot be imposed by any top-down force, however benign, but must by necessity mature in the real society as people can gradually move towards it as sufficiency and abundance replace scarcity dynamics.’
One large factor being ignored here is the role of childcare usually provided by the mother, the basis of all non-reciprocal relationships, producing value which is nowhere acknowledged as an economic asset, but without which no society could exist. or regenerate itself. I hesitate to mention the word ‘love’ in this context but without it why would people move towards more generalised non-reciprocity? It is that primary relationship with a carer – not to exclude fathers or others – which is the first experience of sufficiency and abundance, which will set the pattern of receiving and giving, and will enable a deeper connection with and solidarity with humanity as a whole. In that ability to care, engendered by that first primary relationship, care for ourselves and the other, we can discover our deep need to give, to contribute to another’s well-being, which can nourish our own dignity and empowerment. Through that experience we can envisage the maturity described above moving towards the ‘social individualism’ described by Marx and further towards the ‘Communism [that] is the voluntary cooperation among individuals for both social good and for their own pleasure and development.’
This is not a relationship that has to be created. It is our natural relationship to each other and to the world which is distorted by the economic system of markets and money mechanisms, which alienates us from our true selves. It remains to be discovered when that conditioning and those conditions are thrown off. Whether we have to go through a transition period will depend more, in my opinion, on how quickly we recognise the motivating role of Love and the priority of the mother/carer/child relationship. Anna
I might have something - I've shot a mail to Matt Johnston @cimota with your details & this community. He might have a bunch of stuff for you or none at all. Apologies for being brief, leaving for Central Asia in the morning!
Beste Michel,
tijdens de presentation op het Min van LNV vorige week liet u een schema zien van een scenario met vier werelden die ontstaan bij de tegenstelling Open <-->Closed en FREE <--> betaald> ik wil daar voor Minz.com graag een blog over schrijven. kunt u mij de link naar de presentatie geven?
met vriendelijke groet
Hi Michel
Great to here this.
If you would like to visit Chile we might be able to help.
What would you have in mind and is there any budget?
Also please let me know what your plans are for Argentina.
I know people in Buenos Aires and Cordova.
Saludos
Claudio
HI Michel:
Hope you are well. I believe spams have found their way to P2P foundation too. Like the one I have just gotten from "lucydavid"..
Is there a way to send them away?
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Good day,
I am RonaId Morris, I saw your profile and I decided to contact you immediately. Can you get back to me on my email (ronmorri01@gmail.com) for full details.
Regards.
Proving my lips of pen:
Sorry, it should be: ".. and I'd like to support it in any way"
Thanks Michel for your friendly proposal. I like your activity within P2P community and I'd like it to support i any way. Especially ou notres contacts (courtes) seront en francais. J'aime beaucoup ce language mais alas sans grande mutualite ;-)
A propos de ma question: comment je peut etre enregistre?
En effet. Je t'ai ajouté comme ami sur facebook comme je suis plus souvent connecté que sur P2Pf.
can't wait Lucas!
Thanks Michel. I haven't written anything up yet but I will soon. I find a lot of truth in your thesis on p2p production, and p2p agriculture is my passion. To build a true commons we must build the soil.
Hi Michel,
Thanks for your reply. I was hoping for a response, if you have time, to my comment on the Marxism debate, reproduced below.
Quote – ‘The key is that generalized non-reciprocity cannot be imposed by any top-down force, however benign, but must by necessity mature in the real society as people can gradually move towards it as sufficiency and abundance replace scarcity dynamics.’
One large factor being ignored here is the role of childcare usually provided by the mother, the basis of all non-reciprocal relationships, producing value which is nowhere acknowledged as an economic asset, but without which no society could exist. or regenerate itself. I hesitate to mention the word ‘love’ in this context but without it why would people move towards more generalised non-reciprocity? It is that primary relationship with a carer – not to exclude fathers or others – which is the first experience of sufficiency and abundance, which will set the pattern of receiving and giving, and will enable a deeper connection with and solidarity with humanity as a whole. In that ability to care, engendered by that first primary relationship, care for ourselves and the other, we can discover our deep need to give, to contribute to another’s well-being, which can nourish our own dignity and empowerment. Through that experience we can envisage the maturity described above moving towards the ‘social individualism’ described by Marx and further towards the ‘Communism [that] is the voluntary cooperation among individuals for both social good and for their own pleasure and development.’
This is not a relationship that has to be created. It is our natural relationship to each other and to the world which is distorted by the economic system of markets and money mechanisms, which alienates us from our true selves. It remains to be discovered when that conditioning and those conditions are thrown off. Whether we have to go through a transition period will depend more, in my opinion, on how quickly we recognise the motivating role of Love and the priority of the mother/carer/child relationship.
Anna
HI Michel,
Thank you for your welcome, which is very flattering, but not sure on what it is based. Is this the way you welcome all new members?
Would welcome an explanation,
Anna
ik heb een eerste opzet van mijn blog P2P als nieuw economisch adagium geplaatst op mindz.com: http://www.mindz.com/profiles/Bweerdt/blog/2010/3/30/P2P_als_nieuw_economisch_adagium
ben benieuwd naar uw reactie.
tijdens de presentation op het Min van LNV vorige week liet u een schema zien van een scenario met vier werelden die ontstaan bij de tegenstelling Open <-->Closed en FREE <--> betaald> ik wil daar voor Minz.com graag een blog over schrijven. kunt u mij de link naar de presentatie geven?
met vriendelijke groet
Berend van de Weerdt
Great to here this.
If you would like to visit Chile we might be able to help.
What would you have in mind and is there any budget?
Also please let me know what your plans are for Argentina.
I know people in Buenos Aires and Cordova.
Saludos
Claudio
Im not sure what happens next here,
mair
Michel
Hope you are well. I believe spams have found their way to P2P foundation too. Like the one I have just gotten from "lucydavid"..
Is there a way to send them away?
Thanks so much;
Vida
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