P2P Foundation
Hosting P2P initiatives
A group for those interested in the quality and role of people hosting p2p initiatives around the ways of organizing learning, work, eating, living...
What does hosting mean in the context of P2P systems?
I work as a host at The Hub London (www.the-hub.net) and am interested in developing this exciting role further with others in this forum.
At The Hub I have the role of setting the culture and 'delivering' The Hub Experience within a hosting team.
Hosting to me is cultivating the conditions for meaningful encounters, conversations, collaborations and innovation.
Personally I got very inspired by Ivan Illich's De-schooling society and Michel Bauwens visit to us in November 2007.
According to Illich, the new educational forms - beyond schooling - would benefit from peole (he didn't give them a name) who would have this role:
- help people find the path to reach their own objectives faster
- facilitate encounters between people and with models
- putting ourselves and other people out of the way if we are not needed
- create services
- advice, assess
- advice on methods for peer learning
- advice on other learning sources, places, people, books
- support people's initiatives and initiate some themselves
This is what hosting means to me.
What inspires you in relation to hosting P2P initiatives?
At The Hub I have the role of setting the culture and 'delivering' The Hub Experience within a hosting team.
Hosting to me is cultivating the conditions for meaningful encounters, conversations, collaborations and innovation.
Personally I got very inspired by Ivan Illich's De-schooling society and Michel Bauwens visit to us in November 2007.
According to Illich, the new educational forms - beyond schooling - would benefit from peole (he didn't give them a name) who would have this role:
- help people find the path to reach their own objectives faster
- facilitate encounters between people and with models
- putting ourselves and other people out of the way if we are not needed
- create services
- advice, assess
- advice on methods for peer learning
- advice on other learning sources, places, people, books
- support people's initiatives and initiate some themselves
This is what hosting means to me.
What inspires you in relation to hosting P2P initiatives?
AGNUcius
My hosting inspiration is in how the "we" can treat property ownership of some space and tools so goals similar to Illich's can surface.
The primary problem I see is how originators that purchase space and tools accidentally retain too much control while newcomers cannot gain a foothold.
Space and tools have real and recurring costs that must be collected from the participants in some manner - a kind of 'tax' or 'rent' needed to cover the expenses of operation so hosting can continue.
The solution I propose - to insure ownership flows as the organization grows - is to understand all "price above cost" (or what is commonly called "profit") is a plea for growth from the user who paid it, and must be handled as an investment from that user toward more space and tools.
As those investments vest to the user who paid them, ownership of the space and tools needed for effective hosting are shared among the participants in a self-balancing manner.
Users who pay more than cost slowly gain ownership.
Users who pay exactly cost retain current ownership.
Users who pay less than cost slowly lose ownership.
Does this seem relevant, or would you say the ownership of hosting facilities is an unimportant detail?
Apr 14, 2008