Backing up the internet in a P2P 'cloud' - P2P Foundation2024-03-28T22:53:27Zhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/backing-up-the-internet-in-a?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A17192&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMe like! I'm taking a look at…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2011-01-05:2003008:Comment:182112011-01-05T19:56:24.000ZNatanael Lhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/NatanaelL
Me like! I'm taking a look at it now.
Me like! I'm taking a look at it now. Starting to move... January 2…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2011-01-05:2003008:Comment:182092011-01-05T10:29:51.000ZSepp Hasslbergerhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/Sepp
<p>Starting to move... January 2011:</p>
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<p>Starting to move... January 2011:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.4em; margin-left: 0px;"><font face="'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family: Geneva; font-weight: normal; font-size: medium; color: #333333; line-height: 27px;"><b style="font-size: 1em; xg-p: static !important;">There is a movement just starting up</b> - it is not very well developed yet - that has as its vision the establishment of an independent layer of connectivity between end users, by means of directly networking (mesh network) Wifi or similar wireless connections. The connectivity layer is owned by users, who form a cooperative which takes care of the technical details such as choice of equipment and installation, and which acts as a representative of its members towards internet access providers, negotiating one or more high bandwidth internet connections which are then made available to all the members of the cooperative network. </span></b></font></font></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.4em; margin-left: 0px;"><font face="'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family: Geneva; font-weight: normal; font-size: medium; color: #333333; line-height: 27px;"><em>This would add a robust and sustainable local layer of connectivity and communication to the internet, and it would make the net much more resilient against centralized control and even against unforseen catastrophic events. Once a local network is functioning, data can be cached, making each neighborhood more independent and more resilient to outside interference.</em></span></b></font></font></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.4em; margin-left: 0px;"><font face="'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><span style="font-family: Geneva; font-weight: normal; font-size: medium; color: #333333; line-height: 27px;"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/the-importance-of-local" target="_self">The Importance of Local Connectivity</a><em><br/></em></span></b></font></font></p>
</div> Another piece of the puzzle:…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-03-11:2003008:Comment:172512010-03-11T08:14:23.000ZSepp Hasslbergerhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/Sepp
Another piece of the puzzle:<br />
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<b>Evernote: Cloud App for Mobile Phones</b><br />
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found on: <a href="http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/03/10/evernote-cloud-app-for-mobile/" target="_blank">http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/03/10/evernote-cloud-app-for-mobile/</a><br />
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Evernote uses the “cloud” to store data and perform tasks. Your mobile device can gather (or view) the files you create. Evernote on the iPhone and Evernote for Android let you create text notes, snap photos and record audio memos and store…
Another piece of the puzzle:<br />
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<b>Evernote: Cloud App for Mobile Phones</b><br />
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found on: <a href="http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/03/10/evernote-cloud-app-for-mobile/" target="_blank">http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/03/10/evernote-cloud-app-for-mobile/</a><br />
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Evernote uses the “cloud” to store data and perform tasks. Your mobile device can gather (or view) the files you create. Evernote on the iPhone and Evernote for Android let you create text notes, snap photos and record audio memos and store them on “the cloud”. The idea behind Evernote is to be a sort of digital file cabinet, explains Walt Mossberg.<br />
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It allows you to create “notebooks” containing items called notes. These notes can range from text to photos to many kinds of attached files. You can locate, group and peruse them quickly, without having to dig through a computer’s file system.<br />
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Evernote for Android is now bundled on new Samsung Android phones from T-Mobile USA, including the Samsung Behold II. Besides creating new stuff, you can launch Evernote and find all the notes that you made on your phone, desktop or the web. You can also find notes created near your current location.<br />
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It’s available in free and pay versions. Evernote Premium gives you bigger upload capacity, supports more file types, and offers enhanced security. Plus, you get PDF searching, faster image recognition, and no ads. Netsukuku is in active develo…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-27:2003008:Comment:172042010-02-27T09:22:49.000ZLucaDionisihttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/LucaDionisi
Netsukuku is in active development.<br />
There *has* been much development recently.<br />
<a href="http://dev.hinezumi.org/browser/netsukuku" target="_blank">http://dev.hinezumi.org/browser/netsukuku</a><br />
Well, not much in trunk, but in experimental branches.<br />
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The site does not reflect this, indeed. And, also, the main mailing list is broken at the very moment. ;(
Netsukuku is in active development.<br />
There *has* been much development recently.<br />
<a href="http://dev.hinezumi.org/browser/netsukuku" target="_blank">http://dev.hinezumi.org/browser/netsukuku</a><br />
Well, not much in trunk, but in experimental branches.<br />
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The site does not reflect this, indeed. And, also, the main mailing list is broken at the very moment. ;( I'm only trying to keep the f…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-26:2003008:Comment:171982010-02-26T15:28:11.000ZSepp Hasslbergerhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/Sepp
I'm only trying to keep the flame of hope alive, to eventually arrive at a workable distributed system. What's linked here is what I found and what others contributed in comments. Not much by way of actual development. So whatever you come up with, I am very interested to add the information here and maybe inspire others to also contribute...
I'm only trying to keep the flame of hope alive, to eventually arrive at a workable distributed system. What's linked here is what I found and what others contributed in comments. Not much by way of actual development. So whatever you come up with, I am very interested to add the information here and maybe inspire others to also contribute... The Apache Cassandra project…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-26:2003008:Comment:171952010-02-26T09:54:53.000ZMartien van Steenbergenhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/MartienvanSteenbergen
The Apache Cassandra project seems to already have a working solution for this. Proven, Decentralized, Elastic, Fault Tolerant, Highly Availabile, Rich Data Model, and, finally, Consistent, Eventually.<br />
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See <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/" target="_blank">http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/</a>
The Apache Cassandra project seems to already have a working solution for this. Proven, Decentralized, Elastic, Fault Tolerant, Highly Availabile, Rich Data Model, and, finally, Consistent, Eventually.<br />
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See <a href="http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/" target="_blank">http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra/</a> Are you involved with the dev…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-25:2003008:Comment:171922010-02-25T17:05:38.000ZNatanael Lhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/NatanaelL
Are you involved with the development/know somebody who is?<br />
As far as I can tell from the links, there hasn't been much development recently.<br />
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I'm going to write a little about what kind of mesh network I'm dreaming of later (Netsukuku are close, but not really there).
Are you involved with the development/know somebody who is?<br />
As far as I can tell from the links, there hasn't been much development recently.<br />
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I'm going to write a little about what kind of mesh network I'm dreaming of later (Netsukuku are close, but not really there). I wouldn't know about that.…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-25:2003008:Comment:171912010-02-25T08:45:37.000ZSepp Hasslbergerhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/Sepp
I wouldn't know about that.<br />
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It seems we're always doing as much as we THINK we need and then act surprised when the numbers are turning into a straitjacket. Oh well, I guess it's the idea that counts. Can always fix things later if needed.<br />
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There'll be opportunities to converse with Andrea (Lo Pumo) who, I gather, is going on to study on his scholarship at Cambridge...
I wouldn't know about that.<br />
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It seems we're always doing as much as we THINK we need and then act surprised when the numbers are turning into a straitjacket. Oh well, I guess it's the idea that counts. Can always fix things later if needed.<br />
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There'll be opportunities to converse with Andrea (Lo Pumo) who, I gather, is going on to study on his scholarship at Cambridge... Cool!
Just one question: It…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-24:2003008:Comment:171902010-02-24T20:32:50.000ZNatanael Lhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/NatanaelL
Cool!<br />
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Just one question: It seems like it's using a 2^32 addresses (= a billion, same as IPv4) - couldn't taht be bad? Shouldn't it have a larger number of possible addresses?
Cool!<br />
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Just one question: It seems like it's using a 2^32 addresses (= a billion, same as IPv4) - couldn't taht be bad? Shouldn't it have a larger number of possible addresses? Also check out Netsukuku, whi…tag:p2pfoundation.ning.com,2010-02-24:2003008:Comment:171892010-02-24T15:11:36.000ZSepp Hasslbergerhttp://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/Sepp
Also check out Netsukuku, which is relevant to making this vision a reality...<br />
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<a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/netsukukus-fractal-address" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/netsukukus-fractal-address</a>
Also check out Netsukuku, which is relevant to making this vision a reality...<br />
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<a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/netsukukus-fractal-address" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/netsukukus-fractal-address</a>